The Lulzboat Sailed The Internets and All I Got Was This Stupid Garbage File!

That’s it? All we get is this stinkin garbage file?

Well, it seems that the Lulz are over for now as last night saw the Lulzboat sail into the sunset. In a post on twitter and a rapidly seeded file dump on Pirate Bay, the LulzSec collective decided to hang up their tophat claiming that they were basically going to pull a Costanza at the top of their game.

Within the torrent file the following parting words were sent:

Friends around the globe,

We are Lulz Security, and this is our final release, as today marks something meaningful to us. 50 days ago, we set sail with our humble ship on an uneasy and brutal ocean: the Internet. The hate machine, the love machine, the machine powered by many machines. We are all part of it, helping it grow, and helping it grow on us.

For the past 50 days we’ve been disrupting and exposing corporations, governments, often the general population itself, and quite possibly everything in between, just because we could. All to selflessly entertain others – vanity, fame, recognition, all of these things are shadowed by our desire for that which we all love. The raw, uninterrupted, chaotic thrill of entertainment and anarchy. It’s what we all crave, even the seemingly lifeless politicians and emotionless, middle-aged self-titled failures. You are not failures. You have not blown away. You can get what you want and you are worth having it, believe in yourself.

While we are responsible for everything that The Lulz Boat is, we are not tied to this identity permanently. Behind this jolly visage of rainbows and top hats, we are people. People with a preference for music, a preference for food; we have varying taste in clothes and television, we are just like you. Even Hitler and Osama Bin Laden had these unique variations and style, and isn’t that interesting to know? The mediocre painter turned supervillain liked cats more than we did.

Again, behind the mask, behind the insanity and mayhem, we truly believe in the AntiSec movement. We believe in it so strongly that we brought it back, much to the dismay of those looking for more anarchic lulz. We hope, wish, even beg, that the movement manifests itself into a revolution that can continue on without us. The support we’ve gathered for it in such a short space of time is truly overwhelming, and not to mention humbling. Please don’t stop. Together, united, we can stomp down our common oppressors and imbue ourselves with the power and freedom we deserve.

So with those last thoughts, it’s time to say bon voyage. Our planned 50 day cruise has expired, and we must now sail into the distance, leaving behind – we hope – inspiration, fear, denial, happiness, approval, disapproval, mockery, embarrassment, thoughtfulness, jealousy, hate, even love. If anything, we hope we had a microscopic impact on someone, somewhere. Anywhere.

Thank you for sailing with us. The breeze is fresh and the sun is setting, so now we head for the horizon.

Let it flow…

Hrmmm.. 50 days? Is there any real significance to this other than perhaps the party van was pulling up outside your doors and you had to dump the garbage file quick like? Honestly, the files that you dumped, while in sheer numbers of passwords and logon’s to a few sites is well, kinda weak. In short, there is nothing revelatory here. I mean, jeez at LEAST the garbage file in the movie had some interesting malware shit in it right?

The Files:

So, we have some AT&T data from inside that cover some frequency ranges, and some manuals, minutes from meetings etc that are kind of interesting. There is a scan of the FBI.gov site that shows a vuln, and they managed to add Pablo Escobar to the Navy jobs database.

Whoopee.

All in all I have to give the Lulzsec crew a big “MEH” on this as well as their other dumps really. Sure, they have pointed out that low hanging fruit is abundant on the internet, but, really, who in the security or hacking world did not know this? Further more, what does the average everyday end user care? I mean, if their passwords are stolen, they will reset them. If their money is stolen they are insured by the Fed… Is there a great hue and cry from the masses because Lulz were had by the general populace to have the Lulzboat crew hoisted on the yard arm?

Not that I have seen.

In short kidz, you have only served to amuse yourselves and others out there but if you had anything else in mind about bringing change to the scene, I don’t think you have succeeded. People are creatures of habit and sloth. Short of taking the whole system down for the count, nothing will be so epic as to make corporations secure their networks and perform due diligence. Those who have done so out of worry because of your antics will go back to their peaceful Luddite slumber.

Leaving So Soon?

So, on to your sudden departure from the scene. I have the feeling that as I had written about before, you were coming to realize that perhaps you could never be as clever or wily to evade detection and prosecution given your penchant for the dramatic you all seem to have. Your propaganda machine and communication channels were leaking, this you could see from the A-Team dumps.

You guys have tried variations of your names, you have attempted obfuscate as much as you could, but, in the end, your re-use of favored screen names was your undoing. You see, the jester has been scouring the internet (I am sure with help from others) looking for any connections to those screen names or iterations thereof. I myself have done this and came up with analogous data to what jester and others have posted. With each successive day, your true identities are being uncovered if they have not fully been as of now.

However, this re-use of nick names and ties to email addresses aside, you guys just were immature enough to do yourselves in with petty disputes and the use of non trustworthy assets. This whole outing of each other thing was one of the most stupid things I have seen. Sure, some of it could be digital chaff, with you trying to set out disinformation, but I think that is not the case. Your own hubris shall be the thing that ends up placing the party vans on your collective front steps.

Lets face it, you played the game of spooks and I think in the end, you will lose. In fact, I think that you should probably have been better off had you just gone off seeking some sharks with frikkin lazers on their heads in your volcano lair instead of playing with the fire that you have been. Once they do pop you, you all are going to see some very interesting things inside jail as the governments kluge together terrorism charges on you.

Your Legacy:

Well, I guess we will have to see if anyone decides to take up the Lulzsec mantle. For now, we all await the party van posse to pick you all up sooner or later. You have spawned some more fools though like Team Poison who want to up the ante with releases of data like old Tony Blair stuff… That was kinda lame too frankly and made so sense when they claimed to still have access.. Why dump what you have and then claim to still have access? If it was current, I am pretty sure they have yanked the plug on that mail server and ‘five’ has it.

Oh, did you take that into account? I mean, he is Tony Blair after all… They are MI5… ‘Expect them’

So where was I?… Oh yeah..

In all of your dumps you delivered nothing worth your or our time. You proved a point that SQLi is prevalent but who didn’t know this? You have proved that you were pretty immature and likely suffer from Asperger’s yourselves… Well that will be the claim that your lawyers make to the judge won’t it huh? I mean that is the mental illness du jour as excuses go for immature hacking antics today isn’t it? I don’t think that will work though, the government just doesn’t care, they will medicate you and then put you on trial. You see Asperger’s is not a form of insanity, and the insanity plea, as some of us know, is NOTORIOUSLY hard to use as a defense in court. Nope, you guys really actually suffer from inflated ego’s and too much jolt cola.. That’s my diagnosis, for what its worth.

So, yeah, legacy… Well, you certainly have tried to do your best imitation of SPECTRE, but instead you came off as Bighead. I am sure there will be others following in your footsteps, but, in the end I don’t think you have launched a new SPECTRE.

Nope, I expect your real legacy will be the creation of more draconian laws by the government as a backlash to your antics. Laws that will make all our lives a bit more less private and a lot more prone to being misused. I also expect that the lulz will continue, though at your expense once you are all caught and put into the pokey.

… And those lulz will also be epic fail.

K.

Lulz, Jester, and Counterintelligence On The Internet

Escalation:

I once wrote a blog post about ‘escalation’ and it seems that my fears are coming true as the Lulz Boat keeps making waves across the Internet. Between Lulzsec, Jester, Anonymous, and now God knows who else, we are seeing a re-birth of the 90’s anarchy hacking. However, since so much has changed network wise since the 90’s its been amplified a thousand fold. What has spun out of all the hacking (hactivism, vigilantism, whatever you want to call it) is that we are seeing just how a counter-intelligence operation is carried out. Th3j35t3r and his friends at Web-Ninjas’s are carrying out this counter-intelligence program and posting their findings on Lulzsecexposed as well as on th3j35t3rs own site on word-press.

To date, their efforts have not seemed to have either slowed Lulzsec’s antics, nor generated any federal arrests of anyone involved. However, I think it important to note the methods being used here to attempt to put faces to names in the lulz crew.

The LulzSec Problem:

The problem with trying to track lulzsec members is primarily the technologies that they are using prevent getting a real idea of where and who they are. By using VPN technologies, proxies, and compromised systems in the wild, they have been able to keep their true identities from being exposed in a more meaningful way other than screen names. Due to the problems of digital attribution, the governments of the world cannot quite get their hands around who these people are nor, would they be able to prove such in a court of law at the present time without solid digital forensics on the end users machines.

In the case of Lulzsec and Anonymous, they are not using just one system but many types of systems to protect their anonymity. Thus, with the right tools and obfuscation, they feel impervious to attack from anyone, be they government, law enforcement, or the likes of Th3j35t3r. Tactically, they have the advantage in many ways and it would take one of two types of attacks, if not both simultaneously, to take the Lulzsec and Anonymous core group down. The attacks I mention are these:

1) A direct attack on their IRC servers that host the secret C&C channels

2) Insertion of ‘agent provocateurs’ into the C&C of Lulzsec and Anonymous (as recently alluded to with the FBI stat that one in 4 hackers are CI’s recently)

I actually would suggest that both avenues of attack would have the best effect along with a healthy program of disinformation and PSYOPS to keep the adversary unbalanced and malleable. Which leads me to my next section.. The methods of attack.

Counter-Intelligence:

An overall category, Counter-Intelligence ranges all of the afore-mentioned types of attacks. In the case of Lulzsec, anyone could be a member within the community that encompasses info-sec or anonymous. Hell, Jester could actually know some of these people in real life just as well as you the reader might and never know it if the member never talks about it. I imagine it’s kind of like Fight Club;

The first rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club. #2 – The second rule of Fight Club is, you DO NOT talk about Fight Club. …

If anyone talks, they could end up in some serious shit and in this case, disappeared pretty quickly if the governments in question get their hands on them. This is especially true now that they have hit the FBI and CIA with their attacks and derision… But I digress. The key here is that because no one knows who is who or is talking about it, it is very analogous to the idea of a mole hunt or counter intelligence operations that seek to locate spies within the community (such as within the CIA) There are whole divisions in the CIA and FBI as well as other places that are solely devoted to this type of war of attrition.

I believe that it is a counter-intelligence operation that will win the day though in the battle against Lulzsec or any other like minded adversary. Winning that battle will take the following types of sub operations as well.

PSYOPS & Disinformation:

PSYOPS and Disinformation work together to unbalance the adversary as well as spin the masses toward compliance or action. In the case of LulzSec, this type of activity is already ongoing with their own ‘Manifesto‘ and other publicity that they have put out. They want to spin opinion and generate adoration as well as fear, both of these are in evidence within the media cycle and the public’s perception of who and what they are. Where I am seeing both types of activity on Lulzsec’s part, I can also see within the actions of jester and the Web Ninja’s as well.

On the part of LulzSec, the following psychological operations and disinformation campaigns can be seen:

• For each alleged ‘outing’ of a member, they make claims that these are not core members of their group (note, they do not make claim to the anonymous model of headless operations) such outed persons who can be connected to them are merely underlings in open IRC channels
• Affecting accents and 4chan speak to attempt to hide their real patterns of writing and mannerisms
• A claim to having battles with 4chan and /b/ as well as Anonymous while they seem much more aligned to them (distancing)
• The use of agent provocateurs against Jester within his own coterie of followers and open IRC channel
• The use of flash mobs (abuse) within Jester’s open IRC channel
• Leveraging the fact that they are anonymous (in concept) and due to the technology today, virtually untouchable

On the part of Jester we have the following operational tactics used so far:

• The outing of individuals believed to be core members of the group (no matter if correct, will prompt a reaction from Lulzsec that may be telling)
• The use of agent provocateurs to place disinformation as well as gather intel on the adversary (Lulzsec) which can be seen in leaked IRC chat transcripts
• The creation of analogous groups such as the Web Ninja’s to work against LulzSec
• Leveraging the fact that he is just as anonymous (in concept) as they are and due to the technology today, virtually untouchable

It seems from both sides of the battle, that these types of actions are being used to mislead and gain the edge over the other. In the case of Jester, I am pretty sure that this is an overt thing. While, on the other hand, with Lulzsec, I see it as a reactionary set of measures to attempt to keep themselves from being exposed as to who and where they are. As this continues, I am willing to hazard that even more players are playing a part in this war, quietly, and those would be the government operatives looking for an in to take the Lulz down. Of course, the government has been pretty quiet about Lulzsec haven’t they? One wonders just what they are up to.. If anything at all.

Of course, the NSA may just be the dark horse here… And the Lulz won’t know what hit them.

Then it will be over.

Development of Sources:

One of the more tradecraft oriented things that must be going on is the use of sources or getting assets into positions to be inside the Lulz Boat. I am sure that there are players out there sidling up to the right users on the IRC boards in an attempt to get into the inner circle of LulzSec as well as Anonymous. These assets are likely to be working for the government but I can also see someone like Jester using the same tactic, if not posing himself as the asset. Due to the nature of the problems of tracking these people, this is the best way to get close to the Lulz and to gather raw intelligence on them. After all, even if not fully trusted, an asset can gather important data on the actions of the Lulz and be there when they make a crucial mistake.

The other side of that coin may be people who have been outed and were in fact affiliated with the Lulz. This is where the FBI has a forte in turning hackers into informants by allowing them to work for them instead of just being put in a hole somewhere. It has happened in the past (carders for example) and likely is the case in the Lulz affair. After all, some have been ‘vanned’ already in Anonymous circles and I have yet to hear about any real solid court cases being filed.. So.. One tends to think that there is a bit of cooperation going on with those who have been popped already for being suspected ‘anons’

In the case of the Lulz, we have yet to see or hear of anyone being taken into custody for being afiliated with the Lulz.. But, the day is young especially of late.

Habits Will Be Their Downfall:

Overall, I would say from what I have seen in IRC and in other data located out there on key user names, that human nature and habits will be the downfall of the Lulz. People have habits and these can be leveraged to attack them. No one is perfect and none of these people to my knowledge have been trained to avoid the pitfalls of habit that a trained operative would. Insofar as the Jester seems to have hit the mark in a few cases is telling that people are leaking data. Either the Lulz themselves have been careless (as they harp on password re-use, I harp on user name re-use) or they have indeed  been infiltrated by assets of the enemy, or, have decided to go down another less dangerous path in hopes of not being prosecuted.

Habitual behaviour too is not only action, but mannerisms, thought processes, and enunciation of motives. Just as coders tend to code in specific ways that can be used as ‘digital DNA’ so too can writing patterns, speech, etc even when attempted to be clothed in 4chan speak. As well, the habits of human nature to be trusting will too be their downfall. After all, unless this is a one person operation, there are many links in the chain that could and will be exploited. As people seem to be dropping off of the Lulz Boat (per Jester’s data) they will need new blood to keep the Lulz going, and that means that they will have to recruit, vet, and eventually trust someone…

And that is where the counter-intelligence operation will seal the deal… The phrase “Trust No One” just cannot be a reality in any operation. This is why they sometimes fail, because you trust the wrong person.

Over Reliance On Technology:

In the meantime, the Lulz seem to be relying quite a bit on technologies that are rapidly becoming susceptible to attacks by those who want to capture or stop them. The use of Anonymous proxies like Tor, while effective now, are also compromise-able from a few different perspectives. The technology may be solid, but the pressures legally on those who run them may in fact lead to compromise. Just as any of these avenues of anonymization that are out there could in fact be just honey-pots to capture data. A case in point would be Tor, which was a Navy project to begin with and anyone who has set up an exit node, can in fact sniff the traffic for data that may be helpful in getting a lock on a user.

Additionally, any other means of technology like cloud services that are hosting their data or facilitating anything the Lulz do, could potentially be compromised if the right people are involved *cough NSA cough* that have the latitude to do what they like. Given today’s surprising numbers of laws being passed that erode all of our rights to privacy, I should think that the days are numbered for the Lulz on the technical playground as the boys at Ft. Meade start getting their orders to lock and load.

Never trust so much in technologies that YOU do not run solely yourself.. Remember the government can make any company that MITM attacker and YOU the attacked.

The End:

In the end, I think that the Lulz have pointed out that ‘Elephant with its trunk in out collective coffee” but at what price? Will this change the paradigm and make the government care about security in a more cogent way? No. Instead they will come up with tougher laws and more ways to invade privacy by shortcutting the process. Sure, shit is out there and it is vulnerable, but you know what? It always will be. If it isn’t some very low hanging fruit like SQLi then it will be 0day. There will always be a way in. That is just the nature of things and the Lulz will have shifted paradigm.. Because truly, the Lulz will be on LulzSec, emotionally charged and sorry for their actions… While sitting in jail.

K.

*EDIT* Oh and one more thing to add here as an afterthought. I may remind you all that as the laws are changing and the Patriot Act has been re-signed. The Lulz, having upped the ante, can easily be considered ‘Domestic Terrorists” This would place them in even a more precarious place because then, the legal gloves come off….

One man’s Domestic Terrorist is another man’s “Enemy Combatant”

Inside The LOIC: Anonymous Is Still Using It?

A source has sent in some information on the DoS attacks ongoing at Sony and I have to say I was surprised that the anon’s are still using the LOIC. Unless that is, there have been upgrades made? Does the LOIC now in fact obfuscate IP addresses? Meh, dropping Sony for their douchery is negligible in my book but, there is some interesting information in the data sent.

Such as a server called: staff.anonops.ru vlad.anonops.ru Really? Staff? For a headless org, you have a staff server per its naming convention?

//DATA

”LOIC utilizes the following commands for AnonOps and this is how I did it:”
sh# telnet loic.anonops.ru 6667 <– Open connection

Trying 92.241.162.211…

Connected to loic.anonops.ru.

Escape character is ‘^]’.

:vlad.anonops.ru NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname…

:vlad.anonops.ru NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname

NICK LOIC_JDOFOO <– Send Nickname Command

PING :BFCA576C <– Server sends a ping

PONG :BFCA576C <– Respond with exact sequence or it logs you off

USER IRCLOIC bleep blah :IRC NewFag Bitches <– Send usercommand with password, blah, and User Info

:vlad.anonops.ru 001 LOIC_JDOFOO :Welcome to the AnonOps IRC Network LOIC_JDOFOO!IRCLOIC@whiterabbitobject

:vlad.anonops.ru 002 LOIC_JDOFOO :Your host is vlad.anonops.ru, running version Unreal3.2.8.1

:vlad.anonops.ru 003 LOIC_JDOFOO :This server was created Tue Jan 18 2011 at 19:28:18 UTC

:vlad.anonops.ru 004 LOIC_JDOFOO vlad.anonops.ru Unreal3.2.8.1 iowghraAsORTVSxNCWqBzvdHtGp lvhopsmntikrRcaqOALQbSeIKVfMCuzNTGj

:vlad.anonops.ru 005 LOIC_JDOFOO UHNAMES NAMESX SAFELIST HCN MAXCHANNELS=51 CHANLIMIT=#:51 MAXLIST=b:60,e:60,I:60 NICKLEN=30 CHANNELLEN=32 TOPICLEN=307 KICKLEN=307 AWAYLEN=307 MAXTARGETS=20 :are supported by this server

:vlad.anonops.ru 005 LOIC_JDOFOO WALLCHOPS WATCH=128 WATCHOPTS=A SILENCE=15 MODES=12 CHANTYPES=# PREFIX=(qaohv)~&@%+ CHANMODES=beI,kfL,lj,psmntirRcOAQKVCuzNSMTG NETWORK=AnonOps CASEMAPPING=ascii EXTBAN=~,cqnr ELIST=MNUCT STATUSMSG=~&@%+ :are supported by this server

:vlad.anonops.ru 005 LOIC_JDOFOO EXCEPTS INVEX CMDS=KNOCK,MAP,DCCALLOW,USERIP :are supported by this server

:vlad.anonops.ru 481 LOIC_JDOFOO :Permission Denied- You do not have the correct IRC operator privileges

:vlad.anonops.ru 375 LOIC_JDOFOO :- vlad.anonops.ru Message of the Day –

:vlad.anonops.ru 372 LOIC_JDOFOO :- 18/1/2011 19:28

:vlad.anonops.ru 372 LOIC_JDOFOO :- 🙂

:vlad.anonops.ru 376 LOIC_JDOFOO :End of /MOTD command.

:LOIC_JDOFOO MODE LOIC_JDOFOO :+iwx

:Global!Service@AnonOps.net NOTICE LOIC_JDOFOO :[Logon News – Feb 16 2011] Please do not silence the media, it does no good and prevents free speech. Thank you.

:Global!Service@AnonOps.net NOTICE LOIC_JDOFOO :[Logon News – Mar 30 2011] Network help: #help | Nick registration: /msg nickserv register [password] [email] | Channel registration: /msg chanserv register [#channel] [password] [description] | Other help: /msg helpserv help

:Global!Service@AnonOps.net NOTICE LOIC_JDOFOO :[Random News – Mar 03 2011] this just in: iowa’s cock is the size of a horses. /breakingnews
JOIN #loic <– Make it join the channel (if you dont do appropriate sequences, channel will be invite only)

:LOIC_JDOFOO!IRCLOIC@whiterabbitobject JOIN :#loic

:vlad.anonops.ru 332 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic :!lazor default targethost=store.playstation.com port=80 message=Payback_is_a_frak,_isn’t_it? method=tcp speed=4 threads=20 wait=false random=true checked=false start

:vlad.anonops.ru 333 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic tflow 1302037670

:vlad.anonops.ru 353 LOIC_JDOFOO @ #loic :LOIC_JDOFOO &Wolfy @Sean &LOIC_UIRXWT &tflow

:vlad.anonops.ru 366 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic :End of /NAMES list.

WHO #loic <– List channel users:

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic IRCLOIC An-E075F605 vlad.anonops.ru LOIC_JDOFOO H :0 IRC NewFag Bitches

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic Howling the.moon.tonight tiny.anonops.in Wolfy Hr& :2 Wolfy Ragnarok

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic IRCLOIC an-E23BCDH1.anonops.net hidden LOIC_UIRXWT H& :0 Newfag’s remote loic

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic tflow staff.anonops.ru vlad.anonops.ru tflow Hr*& :0 Sejus Christ

:vlad.anonops.ru 315 LOIC_JDOFOO #loic :End of /WHO list.

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic owen loves.isis tranquility.anonops.net owen Hr@ :1 owen

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic ni staff.anonops.ru vlad.anonops.ru Ryan Hr*@ :0 ni

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic evilworks evil.machine doom.anonops.ru wowelrisk Hr& :2 Jesus H. Christ

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic MM an-544B51BC.bb.sky.com belldandy.anonops.ru MM Gr*@ :2 …

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic tflow staff.anonops.ru vlad.anonops.ru tflow Gr*& :0 Sejus Christ

:vlad.anonops.ru 352 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic IRCLOIC an-E23BCDH1.anonops.net hidden LOIC_UIRXWT H& :0 Newfag’s remote loic

:vlad.anonops.ru 315 LOIC_WMGVIJ #loic :End of /WHO list.

//END

Now, if I were looking to make life painful for Anonymous, I might go blackhat against a server like the afore mentioned staff server. There might be some tasty information there… Just an OPSEC observation there kids… But that’s just me.. Others might actually do it, ya know, like those companies and agencies out there you are pissing off?

On the other hand, what if one were to re-engineer the LOIC to reverse the exploit so to speak and actually inhibit the servers? After all, the genesis of the LOIC and some of the code here seems to come from an early IRC DoS exploit based on obstruct.c right? The mind wanders at the potential of re-engineering that could be made… And, as I remember it, a certain j35t3r already got his hands on the code before and backdoor’d it.. Well as the story goes. So, how long till someone comes along who wants to go against the flow and messes with the LOIC?

Kids, I think its time you found another product…

Meanwhile, Wolfy, dude,  your data is hanging out all over the place. Quite the Xbox freak aren’t you?

If I were you, I would perhaps ease up on the activities because yet again, the data that Backtrace has offered up seems to be correct. Oh, and way to go having your page carry the anon aphorism.. Do you want to be caught?

PS.. Re-using that nick has now gotten it to the point that your IP address can be found here 174-49-41-193.hsd1.tn.comcast.net

Sure, its perhaps a dhcp address, but now its easy enough to link your name to an account at Comcast in Tennessee huh?

Anyway….

To LOIC or Not To LOIC… I still say not.

More interesting times ahead.

K.