Krypt3ia

(Greek: κρυπτεία / krupteía, from κρυπτός / kruptós, “hidden, secret things”)

OpCARTEL: Kids, Trust Me… YOU ARE NOT Up To This Operation

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Killing Pablo:

Ok kids, before you were old enough to understand, there was a guy named Pablo Escobar. He was a bad guy who pretty much single handedly provided the US with cocaine that powered the 80’s debauchery. Pablo was the progenitor of the Zeta model of narco-trafficking that you guys are claiming to have data on and want to tangle with. Let me tell you now in no uncertain terms how I feel about #OpCartel…

YOU ARE NOT READY

Plain and simple, these guys are not just some namby pamby government following laws who will try to arrest you. No, these guys will hire blackhats of their own, find you, and KILL you in the most horrific ways. Need I remind you of the bloggers who got whacked recently? I don’t think you all want to be the next to be swinging under an overpass with a Mexican Necktie do you?

It took major government and military operations to kill Pablo and his cartel. You guys dropping information on the low end mules and lackeys will do nothing but interrupt operations currently ongoing as well as put yourselves into the cross-hairs of the Zeta killing machine. At the very least, you need to do your homework on these guys and NOT announce things on the internet before you do anything, this is just asking for a whacking.

Have you not been listening?

INTELOPS:

First off, if you want to gather intel on these guys or you have it, then make sure you vet it out and insure its the real deal. If you have sources, you need to protect them and if you have hacked access, you need to insure that you can’t be traced back. The big thing though, is to KNOW YOUR TARGET! How much do you really know about the Zetas? How much do you know about the politics of the area? The players both inside and outside the cartel? This group just doesn’t have low level people, they also have high ranking political connections as well. You mess with them, then you have governmental assets and pressure as well to deal with.

So.. What do you know about Los Zetas?

Los Zetas:

Los Zetas and La Familia Michoacana are a narco ring comprised of about 30 ex Mexican Special Forces deserters who decided that narco trafficking was a much better choice than just being ordinary special operators. This group has been one of the bloodiest and boldest in their massacres of opposing groups or individuals. In short, they are not people to tangle with unless you are a government with a special operations group of your own. Much of their infrastructure is already known (see pdf file at the top here) so, dropping some of the data you propose might just serve to get others killed and not damage the organization much at all.

Though, if you did have tasty information, perhaps you could pass it along to the authorities? If not, then maybe Mata Zetas?

Mata Zeta:

Los Matas Zetas is another paramilitary group (Zeta Killers) that has sprung up recently and in fact could be governmentally sponsored. Either way, this group is out to whack the Zetas. Now, were you in posession of data that could be used by them to combat the Zeta’s maybe you could find a conduit to get that to them… Secretly. I am pretty sure though, that these guys, if not sponsored by the government (Mexico and the US) would then just become the next narco trafficking group in line to stop the power vacuum once the Zeta’s have been taken out of the equation.

The basic idea though is this: Use the enemy of your enemy as your friend to destroy your enemy. Get it?

OPSEC:

Ok, so, here we are and you guys have laid claim to the idea of the operation. Then, once people started threatening, you dropped it. Then others like Sabu said it was all a PSYOP and there are things going on in the background still.

Oy  vey…

Look, overall you have to follow OPSEC on any operation like this and so far you have been a big FAIL on that account. It’s akin to saying to your enemy;

“I’m attacking at dawn.. From the East… With planes.. Vintage WWI planes…”

What were you thinking?

Obviously you weren’t thinking about OPSEC. You have seen me write about this in the past and you surely have heard Jester talk about it too. It is a key precept to special warfare and you guys just are not ready for prime time here. Unless you follow some basic security measures you will end up dead. So pay attention.. If there was any merit to this operation in the first place.

This Isn’t An Episode of Miami Vice:

Finally, I would like to say that this is not an episode of Miami Vice kids. YOU do not have a nickel plate .45, slip on shoes, and pastel shirts. This is reality and you are more than likely to run up against blackhats who will find you and one by one, these guys will hunt you down.

I know.. You’re an idea… No one can stop an idea…

I’m sorry, but your Idea will also not stop bullets and bad men with knives from cutting you to ribbons when they locate you. Unless you learn some tradecraft, go back to taking on corrupt corporations and paedophiles…

Though.. They too could also hire a hacker huh?

You guys are not ready for this…

K.

Written by Krypt3ia

2011/11/03 at 15:45

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  1. Here is some simple advice. Deny your affiliations with Anonymous, don’t wear V for Vendetta masks. This Op is something US Special forces wont even tough. There is no pulling out of this operation either. This is the BIG LEAGUES.

    Read for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas_Cartel

    If you think you cant be touched living in the United States, think again. Here is just some of their allies:
    Juárez Cartel, Tijuana Cartel, Beltrán-Leyva Cartel‎‎, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), 18th street gang (M-18), Latin Kings, Barrio Azteca, Mexikanemi, Texas Syndicate

    This isn’t X-Box, these bullets kill! You not only endanger yourself, but your entire family.

    Concerned Friend

    2011/11/03 at 16:40

  2. Well… Special forces may be in fact touching the situation (Mata Zetas) but yes, I agree they are not ready for this type of operation (anon)

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 16:58

  3. I think you dont belive in the new era , if some people need to die to finish the zetas then let it go and let the zetas sufer some time

    ilovetheinternets

    2011/11/03 at 17:54

  4. There’s new era and there’s being smart about it.

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 17:55

  5. what do you say to those who take on these mother fuckers everyday, not through the net but in real? Do we surrender because they can kill us? All federal organizations kill 2, just because they are the cartel doesn’t make the governments fear them. The governments work with them. Operation phoenix in even as far away place as Canada shows how the Canadian government and dea work together to import cocaine for these fucks. I do completely agree with your article though. Seein how ms 13 completely destroyed my block. And Ive seen what they have done and I wouldnt wish it upon my worst enemy. The problem is you cant go to the police because they work for them, same with politicians and the fed. So very good warning. But at the same time how can these groups be brought down. Do we have to wait for them to become to powerful like pablo, or is there a way to take a stance against this to stop history from repeating itself.

    Fingletto

    2011/11/03 at 18:08

  6. They can be brought down if you are smart about it.. Posting that you are going to do it on pastebin is just stupid.

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 18:12

  7. In this case I think the Anons should stop and think before preceding, there is a lot of consideration that should take place. This operation will not only effect them but their friends and family as well. No one other than the federal government may know how far the tentacles of Los Zetas will reach. I would not want to find out the hard way.

    ObserveFromAfar

    2011/11/03 at 18:29

  8. true, lol, kinda reminds of the police out here they tell you they are coming for you before they raid🙂 but could it not be said that a threat from anonymous is like a threat from god, everyone has some god (anon) in them. For ex. God will strike you down to hell if you sin. Would the church (anon) then be responsible for the word of god. Im not religous, just wondering as an example what your thoughts are.

    Fingletto

    2011/11/03 at 18:29

  9. I am not religious so the God angle doesn’t work for me. The way I see it, the guys from Los Zetas don’t give a fuck as well as they are not going to be cowed by anonymous kids. They will only go ahead and find who they can and kill them, leave their bodies with notes, and be done with it by setting that example. Look at the bloggers who talked about them and then ended up hanging by their entrails under a bridge. These guys are not to be fucked with unless you really know what you are doing. The average anon does not fit that bill, so you would be sending lambs to the slaughter.. Which has been the M.O. of Anonymous before, but, at those times there was only threat of jail time or legal proceedings.. This is much different.

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 18:34

  10. K, the pdf you have linked to in the post is not really solid. It seems to be written by someone with alzheimer’s disease. You’ll understand why when you read it yourself.

    Daniel

    2011/11/03 at 18:38

  11. good point… this is why its hard to support our military going over to fight wars, when some of these 16 year old soldiers barely know what its like to take a life🙂 Soldiers beeing led into battle against a deadly enemy. ah when will we learn😦

    Fingletto

    2011/11/03 at 18:41

  12. I will have to read the rest of it.. Ironic that I located it on a government server…

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 18:56

  13. K, interesting post nevertheless! Thanks

    Daniel

    2011/11/03 at 19:00

  14. Just a hint and this is a common knowledge from here on Mexico. Mata Zetas are just a oposing cartel killing Zetas to take their turf, they make themselves looks like a vigilante group to get support from the population or to confuse the Zetas or even the Law.

    And yes, Mexican Drug Cartels are among the most dangerous kind of enemy you want, and no, even when outside of USA, doesn’t mean you are out of reach. People have disappeared from USA and Canada and found dead on Mexico, and Drug Cartels have proven several times recently, that they will kill americans too.

    mexrage

    2011/11/03 at 19:00

  15. Mata may be another cartel.. Or, it could be an operation put on by the gov… Either way, pit them against one another.. Works for me.

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 19:08

  16. You’re talking to Kids, the rest of us benefit very little from your op

    4d4mbr0wn

    2011/11/03 at 19:11

  17. Op or opinon?

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 19:19

  18. Sure people will die. that happens in every war. The drug lords work for money. Anonymous is not about money, but about freedom. Ideology trumps money in the end. If you dont believe that, ask Mubarak and Kadafi. Mexico is next on the list, and the drug lords are going down first.

    anonymous

    2011/11/03 at 19:48

  19. Hubris.

    Krypt3ia

    2011/11/03 at 19:49

  20. This is why whitehats are thugs and whitehat anons are completely insane. I liek blakh4tz. Lulz is both arrogance and humility. This op is pure arrogance.

    Moral imperative is fine. At least blackhats know when to analyze the risk even if their own impulse is off the charts. Whitehats think Risk is a boardgame.

    Moral justification is like crack for people with a suppressed parentally directed inferiority complex.

    I’ll figure out a meme campaign to take the momentum out of this.

  21. I also believe that opcartel won’t have any effect against the Zetas, even the president said that in Mexico we have 2 truths: the absolute truth and the legal truth. The information anon get can’t be used to capture or persecute anybody because they aren’t legal evidences. Sadly because Mexico got stuck for like a century with a corrupt goverment, they made the law so they can protect themselves. Let’s put a example:

    Jorge Hank Rhon, former mayor of Tijuana, son of former Mexico State’s Governator (who was among the most corrupt person in mexico history and stole a huge amount of money from mexico for himself), everybody and i mean EVERYBODY here on mexico know he have corrupt to the bones, he have ties with drug cartels, money laundry (by his casinos), smuggle endangered animal species for their fur and for his personal zoo (infact he was arrested once on USA by smuggling such fur), he sended his personal guard to murder a periodist, the bodyguard said he kill him because he speaked bad of his boss…he basically confessed and Hank Rhon is still free of any charge . He is protected not only by his money, but by the PRI political party, the same political party Felipe Calderon accused of having ties/deals with drug cartels. This year the army raided his mansion and found weapons, illegal weapons with his name engraved on them, weapons that were found to be used on 2 diferent crimes, one of them to murder the girlfriend of one of Hank Rhon’s son and one used to execute a person that was kidnapped on San Luis….but…Because the army raided the mansion without any legal permission…the guns evidence can’t be used, so he is leaved free after PRI put alot of pressure on Felipe Calderon (accusing him of hunting down the PRI)

    mexican

    2011/11/03 at 20:28

  22. But it’s really not a simple matter of black/white, ‘black hat’ vs. ‘white hat’. Many skilled professionals find themselves operating in a wide grey area, renting their skills out to the highest bidder, whether that bidder happens to be a cartel, corporation or a government. Some hackers have ethics they stick to, and some don’t.

    michael555x

    2011/11/03 at 21:41

  23. K- I agree with you about the Mata Zetas. I’ve been looking at this and thinking about it for the last couple of days. (When i get a chance.) Thank you for sharing your thoughts and writing this. mmmmmmmmK, K? -K.

    skullaria

    2011/11/03 at 21:44

  24. Well Zetas are smart,I’m pretty sure they know Anon can’t touch them.I’m from Mexico so I know how it’s been played.

    PwnZt

    2011/11/03 at 21:57

  25. Two general observations/comments directed more at the comments section that the original post.

    One) You have to think of Los Zetas and other such similar organization almost Nation States. They actively participate in geopolitics exactly on that level. As such they have allies at Nation State levels as well, including, as recently reminded.. within the US Government under whatever guise it may be.

    Two) Ideology trumps money IFF (if and only if) there is nothing left to lose. Sorry, that’s the real way of it.. If you didn’t see the transfer of wealth and power in Egypt or Libya then you weren’t paying attention. It wasn’t as simple as the Arab Spring taking hold and running away. In both Egypt and Libya all outside influence and support was about keeping or ensuring control of ~some~ resource by some allied party. France, China, Italy, US, UK, etc. etc. were all positioning their pieces in some way to try to shift resource and fiscal economics their way. Some won, some lost.. but to say ideology trumps money always and use those two examples is a bit naive.

    My main concern would be for those who “didn’t sign up for this” in a sense… when you’re dealing w/ Nation State -level players, you have to consider they don’t consider if you participated in a given operation or not. Just your affiliation is enough to earn you condemnation.

    Los Zetas is that level player.. let them handle their own business w/ the Governments and other similar entities involved. Cheers, -Ali

  26. […] thought it was rather ill concieved of Anonymous to attempt to mess with an organization like the Zetas. Last night I hear that Barrett Brown, ersatz former spokesperson has decided to get back into the […]

  27. @ Ali-Reza: I see where you’re coming from, but my reply was relevant to the main post, because an organisation with that kind of money and connections won’t be hiring amateurs who think they’re ‘black hat’, boast about it and become a liability.
    It could be the case some of Anonymous’ targets would hire a small team of suited and experienced professionals just to trace the persons responsible and carry out a retribution attack. I’m not saying whether that happens in practice, but I’d advise Anonymous to consider that very carefully.

    michael555x

    2011/11/04 at 14:22


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